Bob, agreeing with Toots is a bit of a contagion round these parts smile

RD, in some ways its like its only just occurred to your W what she's done but is still in the 'and woe is me for it' stage. I think at some point she will get to the stage that she really starts to comprehend her choices and their broader impact - I can see signs of it but im not sure if she feels that part or whether at the moment its still mostly self pity and resignation.

For what its worth I think you did a good job and I also think you did really well in expressing your feelings and ending the conversation when you did. She knows your there for her but also that your not some sort of limitless sponge for her negative emotions.

She can surely also see you're doing well and that you and the kids are fine without her.

Lots going on there but none of it decisive - more stars, but maybe they are a bit brighter.

Anyway take care RD


Both mid 30s, 2 young kids
BD 7sep14
XW moved on long ago, now living with OM1
D paperwork in progress