Mighty - I love your analogies - they are just right - some things are like a bit bump we can't get over, and then one day we do without even noticing. And yes, it is much deeper than we realised. My xh, as you know, also did the come back and try again routine before disappearing for a second time. Ouch. Not such a big shock second time around, but in some ways it hurt more . . . . because this time they seem to have 'got' what they had done. No child, but my xh recently admitted to me that he wanted another child. Seriously what is it with these men/children?

If officially diagnosed with MLC couldn't they be put somewhere quiet and comfortable until it passes over, to minimise the hurt they do? Mind you I have thought this about teenagers - but they call it college!!

Hang in there - look at WH - she had (and still has) one of the meanest MLCers gong and is now with someone much nicer.

My personal goal is not another r. In fact a very good friend was telling me that she has met someone nice (been on her own a long long time), and I sat there thinking, I am so happy for you and I am so glad it isn't me!