Ontheup, IT's not that i don't see a way back to my marriage, actually my entire post is more about how liberating and free i feel knowing that me detaching from the marriage has helped me grow as a person, and as you said yes i will be just fine without my W, but i still see a path back to the life i once had. i am just at peace with the knowledge it will probably not happen. i think that was the point i was trying to make the entire time. Life is wild, life is sporatic, and without a doubt unpredictable i can't sit here and say what will happen tomorrow but i sure can say i can do my best to influence those things and learn and grow from them. all the while i hope that my W see's those same things and learns and grows from them. and maybe just maybe our paths will cross again someplace down the road and we will be better for it! hope you understand where i am coming from, and see i dont feel finality just freedom from burden!