maybe those women don't know what they really wanted. The men never say anything so I don't have a good insight on that front besides what I read here and there are not many WAH here.
Zephyr do you know what YOU want? I would say men are exactly the same as women here. Unsure of wlhat they really want!
I had typed out a 10page response and deleated it because it was filled with bullspit. Real & most honest answer is that I just don't know. Sigh. Sorry to hijack the thread.