I've spent a lot of time saying that - the old marriage is dead, but I have wasted a lot of time just trying to put the pieces back together and hoping that they would stick. They don't.

I also feel the same way about WW. I have done so much digging and work on myself, for myself and for the M, but have seemingly done so alone. I think that is all we can do. Do our work for ourselves. We cannot force WW to change, work, think, worry, stop, go...... We have to only work on ourselves - maybe that will be the epiphany bomb for them - maybe not. We will become better people. We are not making changes in ourselves to become worse people or people we do not want to become.

We know that we are not perfect and any self-improvement is good. Good for ourselves and good for a future R with someone (whoever that someone is).

Besides, if W were to come back and want to R, you want it to be her choice - and never blame you for forcing her or coaxing her back.

Keep it up Heavy.


Me-45 W-44
S21, S18, D15
T-27, M-21
BD Jan 2014
PA revealed March 2014
In-house separation - April 2015
I filed - Aug 2015
She moved out Oct 2015