Cherry, i have been hurting for years and had no idea why. even before the wife told me that she was unhappy and had one foot out the door 3+ years ago. it has taken me soooo long to start moving in the right direction. it may very well be a very long ride ahead still. I did not have this site to help me though...i always felt alone in the dark...making the same damned mistakes that so many others have made. you are doing great!!! ups and downs are expected.