Se xh2 had pets, but the way h treated animals, was in a narc way.
He was jealous of any other persons r with same animal. He was also into hitting animals. In some ways with the animals no middle ground either was completely attached or not.h didn't empathise or even be switched on enough to observe and learn from the dogs bahviour why they did what they did.
A lot of his eventually treatments of me and s17 could have been seen with the dogs and livestock.
I did think the tick list was most comon sense and very reasonable. Very pleased to know edzs you think so to. I was always accused of having rediculusly high and unreasonable standards.
It's nice to tick off another bit of spew as invalid.
M 46 h54 Both married before T 11y Bd 2/14 I must see where ow leads! Ms 18 hs 26
Hate to hear he was hitting the animals ;( I know things aren't always fluffy and fuzzy with animals and since I eat meat I don't delude myself on how things work but being mean or hitting creatures through rage, that's a nono. Sorry to hear you had so much of this before, I'm however glad you're not experiencing it now and I hope regardless of what path comes up you dont have to deal with it again.
Stay Classy Gg
M:44, W:46, S:10 M 13 years, T 15 BD:23/7/2014 W/S Moved to MIL: 23/7/2014 My new place: 21/11/2014 W/S back to flat 22/11/2014 W coming closer, talking 4/2015 Piecing 5/2015 Moving in again 6/2015
See there was a slight difference in thinking of each man but they produced the smae results.
Xh1 he had hit from anger.
Xh2 well he punished animals by " giving disapline via a flogging when needed" his thought was it was the animals fault for not complying to the rules.
But see how that reflected on to me, I was punished because i didn't comply and didn't accept blame and punishments for my failings. Like the horse kicking him my training was faulty not my xh2.
See my thought process. The animal treatment was always there, the punishments of me took longer but given xh2 thought process it was given.
M 46 h54 Both married before T 11y Bd 2/14 I must see where ow leads! Ms 18 hs 26
I agree with V. Nothing wrong with high standards. Honestly, I don't think these standards are high to begin with. I think they are..normal and good qualities any woman will want, and any man should strive to be. Shoot Im comparing myself to this list to see how I rack and stack (not with you, but just in general). Knowing exactly what you want, will not ever hurt you.
-Thanks for all the kind words and support on my thread G, sincerely value your insight.
ME: 28 W: 24 M: 2.5yrs T: 5yrs BD: 22 SEP 14 W Leaves: 5 OCT 14
See t, my h thought my views of this list which really hasn't changed that much now I think deeply about it.
Was being unforgiving, because I had an expectation he wouldn't hit sthen15. The fact that I meant a huge deal to me. It's the fact h could do it, then the blame fell squarely on my shoulders.
He blames every one and every thing. S17 has adopted the same mentality recently.
It's seems some women don't the ow in my stich thinks h is of very high morals and stanrdards! Lmao.... I know she's a drug addict to a narc and that's far more addictive than and ordinary a!
I'm just ticking of the spew and that list is another. Shows Some stuff I was most definitely on,the right track.
The list of things in which I was wrong to crapola at is shrinking every day, each time I think of one or do something I give me self a huge metal tick when others talk about being good or ok at it.
I think funny that h, you were wrong.
Sides the ow, is so simlar in a great deal of things to me it's scarey! Al, those things h said were deal breakers to him he's sought out in other. good job h you have shown me how crazee you are.
I just think if I can help a few of you to stop shooting your selves ,in the foot, it's worth it,
M 46 h54 Both married before T 11y Bd 2/14 I must see where ow leads! Ms 18 hs 26
Oh and nilla went up the paddock to see lambie, his leg is defiantly got a bend in it still.
That will never change, but he was keen to come say hello! He butted me (still looking for a bottle) and it's been quite a while since he's been weaned. I haven't been up to see him much because he didn't like the other sheep and needed to get used to living in the mob with them.
He was just like muuuuuuummmmm! And left the mob to come back to the house.
Hounds legs look really good and I left the bandage off because he limps and refuses to walk on it while it's wrapped. But when it's not wraped he weight bears on it so not as bad as he wants you to believe.
As told on nilla thread on horse left home as well. To put his big man panties and become a reasonable member of equine society.
M 46 h54 Both married before T 11y Bd 2/14 I must see where ow leads! Ms 18 hs 26
Well that's a disaster, does any one want to counsel me.
I will need grief counselling, I left the bloody milk at work in the fridge! Not sure I have enough for too many coffees. And I have used the emgerency milk, last coffee emergency
Stomps foot!
And so went out again tonight it was huge affair of meeting a mate at the local club for coffee after work. Serves me right tho, normally I take clothes to work, but forgot tonight.
Oh well jeans and work shirt. Perhaps next week, I shall take real clothes and do it again.
M 46 h54 Both married before T 11y Bd 2/14 I must see where ow leads! Ms 18 hs 26
I'm not getting you on the counselling, Gg. Is everything ok?
FYI the link between animal abuse and domestic violence is widely written about in veterinary literature. Definitely something to steer clear of in a partner - on multiple levels.
H 37 Me 36 Together 15 years Married 5 years No kids BD Apr 2014 H moved out 2 Jun 2014
I know she's a drug addict to a narc and that's far more addictive than and ordinary a! 
good job h you have shown me how crazee you are. 