I wrote a long post on stats, skewing etc but the best report is the CDC report in the US from 2011. Of course the Freedom report in the UK is 2013 and excludes guns. Very tedious so I deleted it. as long as one person is subject to this it is one too many.

I personally think this sort of debate is very healthy and Scherman I think your post should stand as it is. It is very important indeed to understand when an M is violent and standing has less value in the short term. Thank you for the opportunity to review the issue.

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Last edited by Vanilla; 04/02/15 06:57 PM.
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to loose.
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