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I distinguish between Intel and snooping.

Intel is the info I need to determine my actions, make myself secure. A little like doing a credit check on a future business partner or checking that I am investing in the correct assets. Looking into whether an L is qualified, a builder genuine etc.

I keep evidence, that which I need to have to know my exact sitch. Call logs, credit cards, texts, emails etc. not hear say or friends of friends. Recordings and photos I include too.

Snooping, prying and stalking is different. That is control and if you snoop you get poop. Mainly because the one being checked on alters their behaviour to suit. If they know that you check then what you get is not Intel but edited.

Once you know the position, it's an EA or a PA with X type person, then Intel is needed to know how long it has been going on and what type of person X is. Are there others. Is this a serial sitch, is joint cash being used etc. in some cases it is in the open and easy to know. In others secretive and wriggling to hide it. Let the wayward lie their way out of Intel.

So in my book there is Intel to know for certain and psych stuff which is crazy loco and very unhelpful. That W met X on 2nd of dec in 'hotel scuzzy' and has exchanged 25 texts and 200 messages since. Used the joint credit card for paying for 5 meals. Meets every 10 o'clock on second thursday of every month with a bunch of daffodils. X is the boss married 3 times and has two other As. That is Intel. Whatever is needed to confirm establish and protect is fine in my book. I am with Starsky on this one.

Often Intel is in plain sight, a quick check on a phone to establish a number and yes, if a PI is needed go do it.

Our lovely Pink tracked her H to his hotel lair, followed him and made sure he knew she was there. V traced H to a pub where POW was in residence with her H and boldly introduced herself. She also contacted and met with another POW. In all cases the wayward knows and there is no further hiding, the gig is up. Once the gig is up then accept no lies "we both know that is untrue". Confirm, confidential and then consult L. No point in having good Intel and not acting on it. OD found cards and letters in the MBR, Joe overhears telephone calls.

To my mind that X calls the wayward "snookums honeypot" and that X cuts toe nails in the bath and eats chocolate fudge sundaes as foreplay in pink ladies knickers whilst singing Ave Maria is snooping, if it is confirmed five times. Putting a tracker device in a car and remote cameras and checking every ten minutes is shivery 'sleeping with the enemy' especially if it goes on for years.

The purpose of Intel is action in my book, it is for the protection of self.

V

Last edited by Vanilla; 04/01/15 03:56 PM.

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to loose.
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