Sorry to hear alpha. I know EXACTLY how this feels. W sits in front of you and makes things 100% clear to you, and sure..you start to believe her.
Same for me, my W makes herself sooo clear about not wanting R with me.
This is what she is thinking NOW. And maybe she will think this in the long term future too. Do you know it? Does she know it? No.
It feels so hard but just let HER talk, validate (you don't have to agree). You know what the only true way is into a women's heart? I talked to my DB coach with this.
It's TRULY listening and understanding her. This is a lot to ask for most men. But once you can truly detach from your own thoughts, you will be able to purely focus on what she has to say. Women are sensitive creatures.
What I want to say is that you should just focus on what she has to say, don't get INVOLVED in the R talk. Stand for what you believe in, be consistent, listen...then get away from the discussion with integrity.

What's the mother of success? Repetition. That means you figure out what YOU want, where you want to be, and then you go for it. Keep learning how to be a great husband (for your W or whoever else in the future), a great person, stay true to yourself, stay strong and confident, get your life straightened out, be in charge of your life, get wiser, learn about how your W feels, show her consistency and she will gain respect for you. Be a man only an idiot would divorce! If she still does, she's and idiot..! Do it for yourself, do it for the kids, do it for the people that surround you, do it for God!
Don't give up, don't overthink!


Me 32 (German) Wife 28
T 3yrs M 2yrs
Moved to US for W
No kids
BD 6/2014
In house separation
Confirmed EA 1/2015
(ongoing since BD)
OM not ready
Real D talk started 1/27/15