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NH115 #2549845 03/21/15 10:37 PM
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It's amazing how when she realized I was no longer sure that I wanted to continue that the spew stopped cold and she suddenly became respectful and warmer.

This. Yes.

I know people come here in pain and shock. It's unreasonable to expect people to be ready and willing to have a backbone and drop the rope (even faking it at first) and stand up for themselves as soon as they get here. But, man, how I wish they were ready ... because this, Rzr, is TEXTBOOK pursuit and distance.

Confidence and decisiveness in a man is freakin' smokin' HOT! And, yep. I betcha $5 to a hole in a donut that sandi is spot-on. W is gonna start playing games to see if you're all talk and hot air. And it could also be because - gasp! - your confidence and no-BS attitude is ATTRACTIVE to her.

I could be wrong, but I think I'm hearing a new Rzr here! Anddddd ... I like it! smile


M: 40 H: 44
Married 14 years
S11 & D6; D20 & D19 from previous M
2BDs/PAs, 8 years apart
Piecing: April 2014
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Thanks Train, I can feel the dynamic changing. I just need to stay the course at this point.

And when it rains it pours. Turns out that D15 has figured out that I've been on here, who I am, and apparently she's been reading my posts.


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D11, D15
T21, M19
BD 9/9/2014
Piecing

Sometimes if you want to see a change for the better, you have to take things into your own hands - Clint Eastwood

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For the love of God....erase, delete all browsing history EACH TIME after you've visited the DB site people!!!!

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another geeky tip:

use "incognito" if using chrome - every time!!! close all windows after finished

not fool proof, but helps


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S21, S18, D15
T-27, M-21
BD Jan 2014
PA revealed March 2014
In-house separation - April 2015
I filed - Aug 2015
She moved out Oct 2015
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Yeah, I thought I was doing that. It just took once or twice apparently. I may need to show back up on here with a different userid.


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D11, D15
T21, M19
BD 9/9/2014
Piecing

Sometimes if you want to see a change for the better, you have to take things into your own hands - Clint Eastwood

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Good idea - I have worried about this happening too.

But now with the cat potentially out of the bag - what can you do? Kids are smart (so very smart) - if she read everything, she would see how hard and honorably you have fought for your family.


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T-27, M-21
BD Jan 2014
PA revealed March 2014
In-house separation - April 2015
I filed - Aug 2015
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Originally Posted By: u-turn
Good idea - I have worried about this happening too.

But now with the cat potentially out of the bag - what can you do? Kids are smart (so very smart) - if she read everything, she would see how hard and honorably you have fought for your family.


I hope she'll see it that way. You never know how a 15-year old will read things. She knows more than she should about what's going on. We've tried to talk with her about it at an age-appropriate level. She reads things like me being angry at W and she's afraid I hate her, which is far from the truth. She reads posts where I talked about getting attention from attractive women and she's afraid I'm going to step out on W. Apparently she knows we're discussing S. Our house isn't that big and some of our R talks have been, well, a little too voluminous. She's understandably scared. Her best friend comes from a divorced family and I don't think it was very amicable, so my D15s model of a divorced family is a pretty tumultuous one.

I think she initially found out because she "borrowed" my phone in the middle of the night when hers started dropping off the network. That was a while back.

She was upset yesterday and told W about my posting, though she didn't show anything to her. W was not upset with me at all; she was very understanding. I had been up front with W that I was going somewhere to journal, vent and seek advice. I didn't give her the website name, obviously.

I'm not ashamed of anything I've posted here, but I would like to continue to have a private place to go without having to self-censor.

I suppose it was naïve to think that this sitch could go on for months and months without our kids learning too much.


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D11, D15
T21, M19
BD 9/9/2014
Piecing

Sometimes if you want to see a change for the better, you have to take things into your own hands - Clint Eastwood

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I'll be reappearing soon with a new userid and thread


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BD 9/9/2014
Piecing

Sometimes if you want to see a change for the better, you have to take things into your own hands - Clint Eastwood

NH115 #2550352 03/23/15 08:58 PM
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Hey NH
I know my D15 is has issues with how W & I are acting and we are usually very quiet and only talk when they are securely away, but the kids might hear and know more than I think. It is understandable that they are scared. I think that mine has no idea what's coming, S17 might guess it and S20 has asked me to divorce her. The only thing that I have told them on my own is that I am sorry for how this affects them. They want us to be happy - and I think they understand if that means apart (as sad as that sounds) They are used to this with their friends divorced parents.

I think that sometimes teenage girls feel that if you hate someone, you leave them. she sees you not leaving your W, she sees you staying and trying.

Keep it up. I really wish you the best.


Me-45 W-44
S21, S18, D15
T-27, M-21
BD Jan 2014
PA revealed March 2014
In-house separation - April 2015
I filed - Aug 2015
She moved out Oct 2015
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