Thanks for the advise kml. My concern is that my h starts using me as a friendly ear:to talk about things and people only I would know about as he and ow don't have the history.I don't see any signs that he regrets his decision to leave me, I do see signs he regrets getting involved with ow, she has started to irritate him and more importantly our sx2 don't like her and she doesn't like them so it's now come to a her or us ultimatum from them. If he decides to finish with her then he knows getting back with her would result in losing his kids from his life.

Atm nothing he has done or said gives me reason to think he will ever want me back in his life as more than just a friend. I am not sure what I want anyway,I question if the damage can be undone now. I do still love him, I had not spoken to him since Oct last yr, yet it felt like yesterday. The nicer he is the harder it is to remain detached from him.