Dave36, My situation is not very different to yours except you get a lot more kissing than me - I don't get anything other than pecks and she has never rubbed any part of my body ever but I did manage to persuade her to "just do it" every Friday night and that she would accept it without complaint. It was not as difficult to persuade her as I thought it would be because she knows we have a problem as does your W. I guess that she expects it to fizzle out after a few weeks but my intention is that it will just become an accepted routine and that eventually she will lose all her hangups and come to enjoy it and it may even become more frequent. Try suggesting a "just do it" trial for a few months of Fridays. You may be pleasantly surprised. SD
