I will spend a little time there with the kids tonight, maybe 30 mins at the most, but not initiate conversation with W whilst being happy, polite, upbeat if she talks with me.
Would you never initiate a conversation with a neighbor -- only give them upbeat and polite replies if they initiated with you?
The only thing DBing says not to initiate is R talks.
"How was work?" or "Did you hear about (some topical event in the news)?"
Be engaging, listen 3x more than you talk, but yeah -- it's okay to initiate, especially since we're working on that Toots' idea about taking the charm up a notch.