Aquarian and CH.

Once the butterflies and giggles are all gone, love becomes a choice.

I too would really like to find myself immersed in a relationship where "good stuff" flows through it like a river. Great dream, but it isn't going to happen. Not with my wife, not with anyone else.

Sure, there will be/have been good times and bad, good feelings and bad.

I want to remind you about something you probably already know - feelings, for the most part, are untrustworthy. As intense as they can be, they are certainly NOT a substantial criteria to base the termination of a relationship on. I highly recommend as others here have, that you back up, calm down, and talk to each other. You are unlikely to find the answer to your problems in a separation. Believe me, if CH was abusive and mean, I would be cheering you on to getting some distance between the two of you.

As for masturbating and vibrators, maybe both of you need to realize that there is a lot of potential for fun and good healthy adult interaction BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU in those two words.

When I was 19 years old, my parents called and wanted me to come home to talk to them. I arrived and sat at the kitchen table with them. My father started telling me that my mother wanted to leave him. I talked to both of them for a while. Exasperated, my father said "Son, tell her she can't do this!" One look at my mother told me that she had made up her mind. I knew then that she was wrong, but I didn't try to change her mind, I didn't think she would listen.

Before she died a couple years back, she told me how many times she had wished she had stayed with my father. She married 7 times after she divorced my dad. She died alone, a couple of years after her last failed marriage. I still wish I had tried to change her mind at the kitchen table long ago.

You folks think long and hard about what you are doing.

-NOPkins-


I will ferret out an affair at any opportunity.

-An affair is the embodiment of entitlement, fueled by resentment and lack of respect.
-An infidel will remain unreachable so long as their sense of entitlement exceeds their ability to reason.