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Jim

Largely narcissist are not capable of change and are unable to relate to children.

I think you are clear on both those points.

If you read Three Men on A Boat, there is a passage where the writer is examining whether he has the diseases he is learning about in his studies. He has them all apart from house maids knee and then worries why he has not had house maids knee and when he will catch it.

You may have had selfish unaware behaviour but not made it a permanent life style choice.

I think you are safe on this one.

BTW do you have house maids knee at all?

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Ah Jim it's so obvious now, it was so simple I was overthinking it wink

Only used for coffee for me, dont do tea although I keep it in for others, im a bean addict clearly.

Dont worry, if you are concerned then work on that part of yourself, talk to someone you trust or book some counselling. I feel more myself now than I have in the past few years not because w left and im on my own (this is a drain on my PMA not a boost) but because I understood why I felt so bad and internalised (will always be an introvert but I'd totally burried myself inside and was in retrospect partailly zombiefied). In short recognise issues if you had them, by all means discuss with those affected if they will talk but dont dwell on worrying about it see how you can be better moving forward, that is all you can control and all that will be a positive change smile


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M 13 years, T 15
BD:23/7/2014
W/S Moved to MIL: 23/7/2014
My new place: 21/11/2014
W/S back to flat 22/11/2014
W coming closer, talking 4/2015
Piecing 5/2015
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Let me ask you jim,

If your wife father died regardless of how they got along would you leave her got to family party, then come home for a day to head off for a 2 week holiday.

Would you then punish her if she said she was upset by not coming home, by then state to her face you punished her by not coming home earlier?


I doubt it.
H always got what h aksed for always.

If your wife made an attempt to meet a need you asked for
Would you
A notice and feel like she made an effort
B. Reject her effort
C reject her efforts, critise her effort
D reject her efforts critise her effort and walk out.

H always choose d. I doubt you chose d. Most people do not choose d.
All major disagreement resulted in argument and h running every time and avoiding.

If you pushed the issue, he would yell abuse. Names nasty ones, character attacks massive spew.


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Bd 2/14 I must see where ow leads!
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I am just patiently awaiting the arrival of the finger puppet show here in Arkansas. wink

I just love your sense of humor. You, edz, and Vanilla always keep me smiling. Continued prayers and good thoughts heading your way always. smile


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Divorce from XH final 12/17/2014
Marriage #2 12/31/2019
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Well dawn...first steal some trousers and huuuuuuge purple bed socks (to be used as the puppet show booth) then.......

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W/S Moved to MIL: 23/7/2014
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Ha, you need the wrong suppositories too.

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Yes, and wrong bacon combined with huge ugly pores!

Omg you lot, I got the huge giggles.

Oh lookie there goes a rainbow coloured unicorn. Does any one want to catch the magical glitter f a r t? grin

It must be more powerful than the leprcorns pot of gold you know.
Think of all the mischief we can Create with that.


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Everything OK?

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Jim,

Just checking in, it's been a while since I've been reading, but the little that I've seen it looks like our wives are acting very similar. I had a little reprieve a few weeks ago because I got stern about our interactions with the kids. But I see that the same no eye contact, I'm a demon, lies to others about me, etc. Is all present in my sitch. I really think they believe it to justify their actions. My W has shut out most everyone of our friends since they all started to question her about how she is perceiving me. I actually talked to her BFF right after BD (before anyone knew about OM) and I was a mess going through things that W said I did that were 'horrible' her BFF said she was confused because W told her the same stories, but they were much different in how I acted in them. I knew then that W was really looking at the negative in everything.

An example, prior to BD my W said that I tracked her 24/7 using her cell phone and I got furious when she turned it off. She Actually asked a group of our friends if it was normal that H's track their every move. Of course they said no.

Real story: she turned off location services on her phone, I asked why? She said it kills her batteries and I said no It doesn't really. She said its her choice not to turn it on, I said okay but it helps when we need to get the kids to see who's closer. That was me being 'furious.' Well, i must have stunk at tracking her 24/7 too because she was having an affair for a year while I was 'actively tracking her every move' and I Had no clue wink

Just horrible spew that will catch up with them some day.

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M:36 W:37
T: 15 M:11
S6 D5
BD: 8/10/14
IDLY: 8/12/14
S: 8/13/14 (she left, I stayed w/ kids)
D Mentioned: 10/15/14
Confronted about OM: 10/15/14
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Hey Jim

you about, how's it going?


M:44, W:46, S:10
M 13 years, T 15
BD:23/7/2014
W/S Moved to MIL: 23/7/2014
My new place: 21/11/2014
W/S back to flat 22/11/2014
W coming closer, talking 4/2015
Piecing 5/2015
Moving in again 6/2015
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