annette:

I would be incredibly happy if the wife initiated 30% of the time, currently it is 0%. It will never get to 30% of the time, as that would probably require REAL DESIRE from her.

Now for compromise, I would like my marriage to return to the wa it was during the first four years. Lot's of kissing, snuggling, sex everyday, wife initiating sometimes, lot's of naked time together, multi orgasmic sex that takes and hour or two, and most importantly BJ'S. Now the sex is once a month, I start it, I give 45 minutes of foreplay, then she gives me 5-10 minutes of just straight sex. THat is sex 12 times a year. If I cut MY needs by 2/3, that still means sex more then 100+ times a year. And the toughest part of all, I want to know that she WANTS to have sex with me, no more of this "Hurry up and get done so I can get to sleep" crap.

By the way, why does it seem that ND/LD spouses always seem to value sleep over sex? Why are these people always tired? I am NEVER to tired for sex!