Vdubber, you used the word fear again. There is nothing to fear. You have essentially already lost you M and your W. Move forward with that in mind and try to find things that you would enjoy. You gave W money to travel. What about you? Why stay home. Travel...meet new friends.....you mentioned being lonely....I understand that. GAL plans will help with that stuff.

You also mention getting to the phase where you two are talking and you can 180.....its great to think positive. Unfortunately, you will find that just reading things by MWD and believing in M may not be enough. There's. No magic bullet. Some people's. Spouses never come back...not even to talk. Its not a given.

I am not saying this to be mean. I simply want you to understand that what you had...the person that you knew..thats done now.

In a very real sense, she gave you a gift. You now get time to fine tune yourself. If she doesn't decide to recognize your hard changes than surely someone else will benefit from all that you will become as you work through this.

The best "revenge " is a life well lived. She walked away from you and it hurts. Find joy in the blessing you do have and show the world (and you W) that vdub has a lot of life to live. Its a win-win situation. You get to make new friends..do whatever pleases you for fun (within the law of course)...and you either attract your W or some other lucky woman. You cannot lose...peace.


me: 47, W:49
M 16.5 years
T 17 years
Three kids - D17,D14, S13
Heart 2 heart about M 11/8/13
Bomb drop 11/29/13
W moved out 12/5/13
I Retained L 2/20/14
D filed 3/17/14