Thanks Vanillia. I was born in Ireland but grew up in South London so I sound like an East ender !!!!!

I take on board your comments and I will consider options.

I got a call from W today ( 3 actually ) but first one she started crying and saying she was very unhappy because I was going to D13 parent teacher meeting and she didn't want me to tell D13s teachers she had left. She went on to say that she did not leave home to find happiness but to get peace from our arguments over her friendship with OM , before I could say anything she said that she knew the problem was of heroes making. She then told me she could see not solution to how she felt and when she was driving home last night she thought how if she crashed her car and died it would solve her problems. No told her if that's how she felt she needs to speak to a professional. She answered that she was going to see the doctor because of her weight loss and tiredness ,etc. W had part of a thyroid removed a few years ago and W thinks it might be playing up.

D13 got top marks at school , she is an A student but teachers have noticed a slight drop in grades so I had a chat a she is going to put in more effort.

Thanks for posting Vanillia. Take care. Rd