Originally Posted By: Cat
After the final bomb, when I finally really started looking at myself (thanks to many people here), I saw what I was doing and eventually, I figured out why...

While changing my behavior didn't help my marriage...

The entire process helped me to figure out exactly what I needed in MY life...

The same goes for me Cat, and you were one of the many people who helped me, so thank you!! smile

Originally Posted By: Vanilla
Does biology influence thought and behaviour. In repeatable experimentation it has been shown it does, but the situation is complex and testing not empirical. The basic premise of Venus and Mars is a pop psychology stance.

Does male biology equal Mars and similarly female biology equal Venus. In most cases there is a correlation between the two but not causative. It is a false conclusion to deduce that structure equals sexuality and sexuality is behaviour. Generalisation won't help us.....

We have one book DR and DB principles that apply to both sexes in whatever R, we have Sandi guidance which is for both. We do not modify this because of our sex, age, nationality, race or religious belief. We accept individuality and our body suit is one of our individual attributes contributing to personality.

Vanilla, I'm not sure about the others, but think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. I did not mean that I think all men are the same (Mars) nor that all women are the same (Venus), but rather that men and women have different wants, needs, desires, and behaviors, which are a product of their genetic make up, their hormones, and their environment. And while I have the greatest respect for both MWD AND Sandi, their opinions and techniques are not the be-all and end-all of DBing. We all need to experiment and see what is best for our particular situation, and try different things.

Originally Posted By: Cat
So what do women want from men? Deep down what do they want? And how do we actually work against ourselves in trying to get those things?

What I want from a man is affection, honesty, loyalty, humor, kindness, fun, sex, love. Empathy. Someone who will actually listen to me without judging me. And that is exactly what I get, because I chose better this time around smile How about the rest of you?


Linda

Me 65, Ex 64
M 38 y
2 adult S, 4 G-Kids
MLC 11/07
BD 12/09
D 3/14
Dating nice guy 7/14
Engaged to nice guy 12/17