Well, if this is going in circles, then I've been there done that. I have felt these exact feelings at one point or another - still do from time to time - so it all looks pretty normal to me. Couple of quick thoughts:

- I don't think we should be too hard on ourselves because we choose to add a dose of optimism. We've all been around people who who are negative, and I for one would not chose to be in an R with that. Our optimism is a gift and it's one of the reasons why we continue to stand while our S appears to have lost hope. That's something to be valued and cherished IMHO, particularly in light of the last paragraph you wrote. Maybe one day our S will realise that. If not, it's ok because we'll approach the next phase in our life with optimism.

- Just like the Giraffe said - thoughts and feelings come and go. Some will stick around longer than others. At some point we'll probably settle on some that will guide us in a particular direction. For now though, all you can do is sit with them. I think it's good you wrote them out.

- I know you are taking a different approach and "emotionally pursuing" H with some positive results so far. One difficulty with that is that LRT is just as much about the LBS as it is the WAS - to give LBS space to gather themselves and find peace with the situation, learn not to control the outcome etc. Are you denying your opportunity to do this with your approach?

- If you are finding that you are constantly mulling these things over, then I suggest you try doing some daily meditation. I use the Headspace app on my phone. I've been recommending it to others here to the extent that I'm worried people will start to think I have a commercial interest! (I don't) Enough people here have indicated that they found it useful, to make me think you could also find it useful.

Zelda - you are still so early in this. Give yourself some time to detach and learn to go with the flow. What are you doing on the GAL front?


H 37 Me 36
Together 15 years
Married 5 years
No kids
BD Apr 2014
H moved out 2 Jun 2014