Originally Posted By: staytog
Actions speak louder than words.

Sounds like you still have lots of work to do on yourself and their will be no shortcuts or easy buttons around that.

How can you make yourself into a man that only a fool would leave? [/quote]

I agree. I think I have done that. I need to be stronger I think. I am 4 hours away from her and she is working 80 hours a week and most of the time 7 days. We talk, but I'm not sure what actions I can take other than spending more time with the kids doing family stuff. I know she likes that. The kids are 18 19 20 24 and 26 so I'm not sure they are all that excited about spending a bunch of time with me! I am all ears though
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I didn't read your full opening post cause it's unreadable for me. The only way to modify is copy and paste then make paragraphs with only a few sentences with a space break between. It could probably easily 3 posts.

About your changes, I hope they do stick but things will be very different our of your current controlled env't.

Were the activities that resulted in prison time known to your W?


Me 57/H 58
M36 S 2.5yrs R 12/13

Let me give up the need to know why things happen as they do.
I will never know and constant wondering is constant suffering.
Caroline Myss