Of course my comments above are about how I, Vanilla would feel as W, it is only Vs interpretation and there are many others. They won't be Ws actual feelings and thoughts of course, but it's what I see and saw. It is uncomfortable to do this as it brings up some of my own feelings about being judged and criticised and ideally I would recommend that you see this in W shoes for yourself. I do so from a good place so I want us to be good on it. So take what you will from it.
Thanks Vanilla for your insights - we can only comment from our own perspective but i found around the boards when someone with similar experience is able to communicate how they would have felt it gives us a much better chance at having the empathy we really need to understand how we need to change.
I'm glad you posted this as it helps me as well
Both mid 30s, 2 young kids BD 7sep14 XW moved on long ago, now living with OM1 D paperwork in progress