I like the advice you're giving out and thank you for the time and energy it takes you to do so.
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At what point does one say, "it ain't working for me any more. I have too much self-worth to fritter away any more time."
I see where you are going here Wonka.
And I have problems seeing/reading about people who I think should move on. But that's not my place to do that to someone, its not my job to remove that person's hope. For me? My hope was near gone when my wife came around. I outlasted it barely...and actually I wanted her to fail at the time cause I had plans that didn't involve her.
If/when an LBS comes to that decision on their own after giving it their all? I'll cheer them on. But far be it from me to tell them when that happens.
The alcoholism and MLC are great examples of a disease turning what hopefully was a good decent person before hand into a monster. The idea is that good decent person can find their way back.
That's the goal, that good decent person, the goal should never be having the monster 'accept' you.
Anyone willing to be accepted by the monster needs to have a higher opinion of themselves.
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I guess the issue is that there's no real "yardstick" on how long a spouses stands with their MLCer.
As long as they can. And to have no regrets no matter the outcome.
Experience is a brutal teacher, but you learn. My God, do you learn. - C.S. Lewis
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