Thanks Tim, She has recovered from her MD disappointments now. In fact she was singing and whistling this evening - quite unusual. I think it is because S19 came back from university with a card and big basket of flowers (W doesn’t know it so don’t tell her but DD16 sent a text to S19 telling him to bring the card and flowers – a brilliant piece of initiative by DD16). It is W’s birthday soon so I will try a lot harder to appeal to her "Receiving gifts" LL. I've booked a night in a luxury hotel so that should be fun (I hope) - although she is panicking about money so she might give me grief about the cost. SD