CeMar, You talk a lot of sense. I now hear what she is saying and will not bring the subject up at bed time again if I can help it. As for the frequency thing, I agree, that if she would consent to trying daily sex for a few weeks she would get to quite enjoy it. She is exactly as Michelle describes. She doesn't get turned on until we are actually underway. She is ND in all aspects of the subject but on things she's interested in such as planning vacations she is HD and does masses of research etc. I notice that you have been on this forum for 6 months now with apparently not much progress. I don't think I can last that long this time. I'd hate to destroy my children's lives but how many years can a man go before he has to think of his own happiness?
