Thursday 4:30am. Had another discussion with W last night which started off OK, got heated then ended OK-ish. She really doesn't want to talk about this. She said she'd prefer to talk downstairs rather than in bed but it's difficult to talk about this stuff while teenagers are around and the TV is on. She did say (through gritted teeth) that she will read the book though. I suggested that we try to ML every Friday (ie, Just Do It) for 2 months as a trial. She tried to haggle me to once per month but we've tried that and it's not regular enough to become habit forming. I'm hoping that after a few weeks it won't be such a big deal and that she will just accept that Fridays are ML days without lengthy negotiations every time. SD