Hi Vanilla. Thanks for the kind words. Re my W and a d affair , I do not know. At this stage I wouldn't be surprised. It was my birthday on Friday and my S16 today so myself and kids went out last night and had a fantastic time. We ant to a burger bar and did nothing but laugh for the whole time It's was Great and I hope S16 remembers it the same in years to come.

I don't post as much as I am following DB / DR and I see no real progress save my W seems to be going downhill fast. She is constantly upset and last week myS19 had a big bust up with her and she thought she resolved it but it came up again yesterday.

As I said it was S16s birthday today and W could not afford a present so I told him all the gifts were from us and inof just me W was very grateful and text me thanks during the day. She called me twice to thank me for being a great dad and good person. She looks wrecked and says she feels terrible and I'll all the time She takes food and items such as toilet rolls from my house as she has little money ( she does not know I know this ) It's hard to see her this bad but it is her choice.

Re OM it's possible that it's a EA or PA but I have no proof and have decided that I have hurt myself enough over this with negative thoughts so I try to push those thoughts from my mind. If and when it comes to light then I'll have enough pain then so why put myself through more now.

I read a lot of the posts on here and while it does give a certain strength , it's very hard to read of all the pain we all feel. I am dealing with my issues re the marriage and don't beat myself like I used to I am a good person, not perfect, but good and I deserve love and respect. I would love that to be with W but I will be happy in a relationship again one day. I also have four of the most fantastic kids in the world who's love is unconditional and nobody could or should ask for more. Take care