Theoden. Thanks for posting. I appreciate your advice. I see what you are saying. I see my mistakes and although I have detached with day to day things I am still available for her so I will have to change that. My W and I both went to the same I/c and that I/c is telling me to open up a small bit to my W as she is in a fog and is making very bad decisions and possibly nearing a breakdown.

My W moved out after 25 years together and since the evening she left 7 weeks ago myself and the 4 kids have carried on as if she was never there. She still visits most days but her role as a mother is gone and she is now like an aunt. ( her words)

W called the kids last night and then spoke to me. She said she was too upset to see kids and each day was getting harder. She also said she is going to see an I/c as she couldn't handle her situation much longer. She was sobbing down the phone as she said this.

I have detached to the point where I think my W believes I don't want her back and any gesture or such like I make is merely me being kind to an ex W.

Just to lighting the mood, I have dry bad pain in my leg at the moment due to a trapped nerve. I have not told W and told kids not to mention it. She told me last night, "I wasn't snooping BUT I saw in your draw a lot of pain medication, what's that for. ". Sherlock Holmes she's not. !!!! Thanks again for posting Any advice is great fully received. Rd