It was quite a surprise as she used to work with me doing the same stuff (pre-kids). It seems to be her anxiety over protecting them and in hindsight she has said similar things before. I just didn't register how much it concerned her.

I like the Robx attitude but at the moment my W is 100% wanting D (in both words and actions) so saying anything wouldn't have much affect. There is a trust issue to overcome first and she would need to face her own feelings of guilt. I haven't yet thought of a way to make this easier.

Vanilla, thank you. its good to have both advice and a cheer team. Im (semi) confident that I can turn me around even if it doesn't save my M.

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Both mid 30s, 2 young kids
BD 7sep14
XW moved on long ago, now living with OM1
D paperwork in progress