Thanks mozza. Thanks for your post. Thing is it's the I/c who is confirming the changes Also she is gone 3 weeks and the house and the kids are all still standing. The kids are having proper dinners every nite , and even she said my roasts are the best she's had the house is clean and all carrying on as normal. It's not a case of me fooling anyone it's there for all to see As I posted before I/c is convinced W is not in an EA or PA and if that is the case ( which I am unsure).it must be hard very difficult for her to accept her leaving has not brought the world to an end I believe M is over but continue to stand as I have to try all avenues for kids me and W.