Shouldn't find it embarrassing should be thinking that all the reading of these self help books will make you and all of us that read them amazing people .
I find that when you start talking to people about the 5LL it seems yo hit home and then next thing they are going on date nights with there partners etc so some good does come out of it as does all the advice from the wonderfull people on this forum.


Me 40
W 37
Together 22 years
S18
D12
WaW 12/08/14 after affair exposed , suspected for several months
W returned home for 2 weeks to see if can handle family life
After the 2 weeks she has left .