"I don't see it. Can one of you perhaps make me see her PoV on this?"
I think you have a real disconnect with certain aspects of relationships. Same issue like when I asked to detail your activities with the kids. You refused to do it because you didn't understand why it was asked.
Your W is still hurting from your A's. All the sneaking around, talking to other women really dissolved her trust in you. When you first came on here, you got upset at us bringing up (what you felt) was the past. We stressed that it was very important, but rather than trying to understand, you kept arguing with us and said that you were "over it".
We told you that your W wasn't but you didn't listen. THIS is a result of that.
Then when you casually mentioned that you were confiding in another woman about your M problems. We told you to cut that off, but again, you refused to listen and argued back, using the excuse that you weren't interested in her so it doesn't matter.
When are you going to learn that it doesn't matter what YOU feel, but how your W does that matters?
That's what you're not getting.
M-43 W-40 2D - 9 and 5
Emotion, yet peace. Ignorance, yet knowledge. Passion, yet serenity. Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet a new life.