Originally Posted By: 1Wish
Originally Posted By: MrBond
You haven't changed. I thought you said you would actually listen this time. Are you going to go to C.


Wait i have listened.. i didnt argue back im so confused here now.. i have re iterated back to her as well.


I guess you not arguing back, is a big step forward for you, but really IWish, it takes more than "not arguing back," to become a man...a man who listens to NEW information, and THEN

processes it!

Think back to your earlier years in school.... Like when you took a class with a really good teacher, and she gave you NEW INFORMATION...then you might have said, "Wow, that's very cool, I'll have to think about that" and then you went from there and maybe changed an opinion or learned more about the topic, etc. Point is, you CHANGED a little when you got the new info, right?

But with YOU Nowadays, you blurt out stuff and then seem surprised that you made people cringe. Like the whole episode of you calling your wife a "bitch" who dresses like a slut" for packing some shorts . 1Wish, TO ME, that episode was almost insane. I was shocked....truly

So when you heard so many of us react in horror to you, and so many of the guys were saying "OMG I wish I had the chance YOU are being given; a wife who cares and who is TRYING, OMG I would So NOT blow it like you"

then you said "OOOPS I take it back" but it's still out there in the back of our minds. Not that we are "not forgiving" you but like we see you in a different light. It takes a "different" type of guy to say what you said, under those circumstances and it scares me for your wife's sake.
If you really do not see women that way (like sex slaves who exist only for you)

I'm still concerned that you will put her near some people who ARE like that, like your family and she'll be insulted and hurt and put down and where will YOU BE then? "Away"???? You need to be next to her when she's with your family OR anyone else who might try to hurt or shame her.

You shared with us how she had a horrific childhood....so in my eyes, she's sort of got an excuse for feeling so uncertain about things. She knows she values LOYALTY, in a big way. Ss someone watching her back, and standing up for her is very appealing to her.

You skimmed over how you let her down with that "She packed shorts/what a bitch/slut" piece, but you harped on her complaints about your family. Look at that again, okay? Take in the NEW INFORMATION and opinions you're hearing and see where it gets you i

1Wish, if she is going to be your wife (or stay your wife)

then SHE IS YOUR FAMILY- and your family 'of origin" has to accept her, or THEY go...not her.
"A man shall leave his home and cleave to his wife and the TWO SHALL BECOME ONE."

You are supposed to be ONE. My advice...to keep it simple I'd just say for you -

IN BLUE

For now, to just back the hell off of her and let her GO. Really, back off and Leave her be.

Let her learn some things for herself without you staring over her shoulder, telling her the answer.

And YOU Go learn some things, like life lessons. Either finish school and or Get AND keep a good job --a job that you are proud of and happy with, so you can have NOT JUST A "JOB," -- BUT A CAREER.

A career so you can provide for your family and support your wife's educational goals and raise kids, IF that is what you BOTH decide.



Please tell me, Does that ^^ sound appealing to you, or too hard?


M: 57 H: 60
M: 35 yrs
S30,D28,D19
H off to Alaska 2006
Recon 7/07- 8/08
*2016*
X = "ALASKA 2.0"
GROUND HOG DAY
I File D 10/16
OW
DIV 2/26/2018
X marries OW 5/2016

= CLOSURE 4 ME
Embrace the Change