Thanks 25

I think I need to find one for me. One to save the M might come later IF my W has any kind of thaw that means she can shift from her 'there's no point, I don't love you enough to make it worth trying' position.

This is taking a lot of energy and gives me enormous respect for you guys who have stuck at it. I know I should detach but its really hard to watch her spinning even further away from me, and although I don't think there is an A yet I sense its only a matter of time - and she wouldn't see it as an A


Both mid 30s, 2 young kids
BD 7sep14
XW moved on long ago, now living with OM1
D paperwork in progress