Thanks for stopping by Joyful.

I agree with everything you're saying!

OW accepts his drinking and lets H do what he wants to..she's that pathetic. H is killing himself with all his drinking, H is not healthy, if it's not one thing it's something else.

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Draw the lines. Make it difficult for him to return. Show him you won't accept his behaviors like they are now. Make yourself worth it for him to want to change. Most will return...they just try and punish you. Another abusive tactic they have. If they don't, its their too ashamed of what they have done.




I'm thinking along these lines. I deserve to be respected by my H, my partner. H has never been that partner or H.

I like not having H here, it's easier to make plans, to do things. Everything I do I feel has to be "okayed" with my H and then he'll give me a hard time about anything I do do. Questions me, wants to know why "I have to go the Mall" why I have to "work late", why I have to "meet friends" and then he just does whatever he wants to. He's a selfish, selfish man, always has been.

When H was growing up or in high school, his father worked construction and was gone during the week. So his mom ran the roost. For some reason she liked to get H in trouble with his dad. She'd make things about what H had done. H's mom is an alcoholic, also. H referred to his mother as a backstabber. I remember one time last year I had to ask H for his half of the bills and he got so ugly about it..said "you're a backstabber" and I don't know where that came from or why my asking him for money, which is owed for bills, brough this out of him. H's dad verbally abused him and beat him, too. H's dad never came to any of H's sporting events either. H was the star quarterback and the star basketball player and ran track. H was a great athlete. My H was offered football scholarships to some of the biggest schools, but because his parents had not clue and weren't supportive, H turned them down and entered the service, he was a Marine! Married his high school sweetheart, they were married for 11 years and she walked out on H. H messed around and met another woman, who he married, after months of ups and downs with her, she was wacko and she walked out on him about year after they were married. H moved her all over the state, as H worked on the road a lot and she wanted to be with H. #2 moved here from her home state and wasn't happy here. H pretty much was a puppet on a strong with #2, quit drinking quit hunting, let her have control of all the money..what a mistake.

So H had a screwed up childhood and has been screwed up ever since.

Cathy