Okay, thanks for the criticism. I needed that. I know I tend to fit that term being that I'm an easy going guy in general. Nonetheless, I need some solid advice on this one: This weekend our city is having Ocktoberfest. Most of my W interaction with OM outside of work has involved the kids. I've decided how I'll respond if she plans on taking our kids to the festival but with OM. So my question is would me asking her for us to take our kids to the festival be pursuing? I just want to be out with my kids and have a good time, not necessarily be out with her. Please note I have 5 kids ages 6mos, 2, 3, 3, and 8. So its not that easy to just take them alone.