Thanks gg, jjust got off the phone from h, seems he didn't tell ow that I spent the day with him and the boys today because she would probably get upset. Also said she knows we do family night every week and she's all for it. and that I have the boys every Mon and wed, and she's fine with it...but wouldn't be ok with me spending the day with them today, makes no sense to me.
He also said that he and s7 had been going through the kids book I bought on s and d, aimed at getting kids to talk. Part of it was talking about mums and dads seeing new people, s7 got very upset and said that he didn't want a new mum or dad, H told him we would always be his parents, but at least s7 has validated to h that he's not ready for ow or anyone else to enter his life. H also said in there somewhere that we would not back together, I think in trying to reassure ow, she's worried about us getting back together, and he's telling her we won't, yup that stung. half of what you see and nothing you hear.