Quick to listen, Slow to speak

[holdingon]

Is that butterfly effect written about somewhere? What is that?

[imalright]

I've heard of this "butterfly effect" also. i'd also like to know from where it came from.

[Underdog]

Holding and Deb,

I think I read somewhere (who knows?) that the butterfly effect is about the momentum that the wind can build on just one little butterfly twittering its wings. Sort of the analogy about creating a big wave when throwing a little stone into a pond?

Correct me if I read it wrong, cuz I probably saw it in the bathroom stall somewhere....

HOn, GO YOU!

[holdingon]

After we had the great two days, the third day H called a couple of times... the the next day we were out and about being busy and H called. We did not return his calls... we often don't. Don't want to be at his beck and call, too available, etc. Anyway, he has mentioned that three times... "the other day when you all did not call me back"

Don't know if this hurt his feelings, or if he is wondering what is up with us, or if he is realizing maybe we won't be here... just thought it was interesting.

Well, all of this is interesting, isn't it??

[love_endures4ever]

lol...well what does he expect? You aren't at his beck and call. I mean really now..think about it...H should think about..H IS thinking about it!!

Cathy

[Trying24now]

Holding

Actually it's a good thing when he inquires about why you didn't return HIS call.

It is a positive. They get so use to knowing exactly where we are and what we're doing that any CHANGE from that norm throws them for a loop....and YES it does make them wonder and a little nervous when all of a sudden we are no longer "staying put."

Sounds good!
T2

[mockers2]

Holdingon - You sound awesome! What an inspiration you are. It is tough to see why they don't get it, why they can't see how wonderful you are. But I think, he does see. I think this is why there is silence for a day or so. I think he has alot to think about. I think it is important and interesting that he notices and minds when he can't get you and when you aren't right there waiting for his call.

You are such a shining example of faith and strength. God is with you. Stay on course. You, your H and your boys continue to be in my prayers.

The scared animal analogy is a good one, I think. It has helped me alot to change my view of my H.

Thank you for the description of your beautiful yard! Here's a tulip from my yard for you! ((((((Holdingon)))))

[holdingon]

I have a friend that I have written about here on the BB... she is the one that inspired me to post about forgiveness a while ago. Anyway... she called me one day, kind of out of the blue to see how I was doing. And I asked her how she was doing and she said that her H and she had a huge fight. I felt like a door had opened so I aksed her "have you ever forgiven him for his A" (which I knew, just by listening to them talk to each other, she had not). And she said "no, cause he never apologized."

I suggested After the Affair. She went out and bought it, is reading it, is liking it and she said they had one really good talk so far. Gosh, it makes me feel good to think SOMETHING good is coming out of all of this... Now, if only my sitch....

[optimist]

Is that butterfly effect written about somewhere? What is that?

The butterfly effect is a mathematical theory that tries to explain the essence of chaos. Technically it is called "sensitive dependence on initial conditions."

It tries to explain the impact of small inputs in complex systems. The theory proposes that a tiny difference in the initial conditions in a mathematical equation becomes amplified by the evolution of the equation itself in time, until the two trajectories evolve quite separately. The amplification is exponential, the difference grows very rapidly and after a surprisingly short time the two solutions behave quite differently.

The initial theory was proposed by Edward Lorenz in 1963, though Henri Poincaré, a 19th century mathematician, laid down some of the initial equations. To illustrate his theory, Lorenz theorized "the flapping of a single butterfly's wing today produces a tiny change in the state of the atmosphere. Over a period of time, the atmosphere actually diverges from what it otherwise would have done. So, in a month's time, a tornado develops that devastates the coast of Indonesia. Or perhaps, because of the butterfly's wing, the tornado never happens."

BTW, his initial example in the 1963 paper was a seagull. The more poetic butterfly appeared in his 1972 presentation to the AAAS.

It gets frequently confused with the "domino effect", but the comparison is misleading. In both there is dependence on the initial sensitivity, but whereas a simple linear row of dominoes would cause one event to initiate another similar one, the butterfly effect amplifies the condition upon each iteration and makes the final outcome unpredictable.

Of course all this is probably way more than you wanted to know about chaos theory...

But, girlfriend, cheer up: IT IS THE THIRD WEEK IN MARCH: WE FINALLY CAN GET OUT AND PLANT!!!!!!!!!

[psluke]

You see I KNEW either Opt or CHL could answer this question!!!

They were discussing it here at work and apparently there is a movie out called "The Butterfly Effect" that the lady here that saw it said was very good.