Holdingon,

I definately like Wiley's advice. I think it would be very helpful in your sitch and mine. I find it hard to not be the loving and wonderul (LOL) W that I am. I do know that when I back off or mention I've had enough that's when H says "well, let me ...."

It's good that OW is out on the table. Honesty is important. My H is still pretending that there is no OW! HA!!

I will look up that book you mentioned.

Saying a prayer for you!! nik