I think it's normal that we ALL do things to not be seen by our S's as being unreasonable (I can't be called a bitch for obvious reasons). My W gets so adamant that what I am asking for is just so heinous it makes me stop and question myself. 99% of the time, after having time to think about it, I wasn't being at all unreasonable! My W has gone back on almost everything she agreed to before filing her final decree PW. We were supposed to talk and agree to all sorts of things and each and every one is nothing like we spoke about. The thing about the MLCer is they are always the victim. They are always being taken advantage of or getting screwed by the LBS. We are the problem, we are the cause of their pain. We don't deserve to get anything. Anything they choose to give is more than we should be getting since they have had their whole life messed up by us. They want to see us as the bad guy and this is just another way to make that happen. Be careful and get what you think is right and don't be afraid to fight for something you know is best. In the end it won't make a bit of difference either way and it's best to do what you, the "sane" S thinks is best!