Good luck .... I too have anxiety when it comes to the money talk, WAW and I have been seperated for 9 months and I took a room out of a house basically roughing it all this time but if we D the money she is getting now is far more than anything I would be required to pay. Part of me has thought to cut her off a bit just to prove a point .. but I rethink that knowing it is not going to get me closer to R. Your case, he must know that life with out the M is going to be far different hence why he may be defensive about the entire sitch. My advice, lay it out clearly and calmly like its a buisness meeting and try as hard as it is to remove emotions, if you feel them coming on , clearly state you need to take a break and will need to reschedule further talks, this gives you both time to think about the issues that were brought up on the table and a chance to revisit it later with a clear head ... just my .02 Good Luck.