Guys, I just wanted you to know that all women are not clueless. My husband has many similarities to your wives, he claims he has desire but when it comes time for bed he crashes, he also claims he desires me but then it is also followed by another excuse. Basically what I am starting to see is that there are two kinds of people in this world, people who continually have a desire and the others who lose it after puberty or reproduction. I feel like I got stuck with the later type of person, now it is my job to try to figure how to arose his interest. I have tried trips to the ocean, Las Vegas, I went as far as getting rooms with hottubs, views, fireplaces, etc. And I did not get the reaction I was hoping for I am thinking because these were things that would turn me on, maybe this would work on your wife. Have you tried secretly seducing her? Secretly might not be the appropriate word, I mean starting off by running her a candle lit, bubble bath, or how about a massage, staying away from the obvious zones? I am going to try fishing with my husband next, it seems to be the only thing he genuinely gets excited about anymore. Anyway good luck to you and if you have any ideas for me please share!