Exactly Bea! Very well put. When we watch a S go from a loving caring person to a selfish, spewing monster without any real reason (in my case even my W can't come up with anything that I did "wrong" or that was hurtful) there either has to be something such as MLC or there is just no sense in the world. People who we have been with for 25 years don't just change their mind or become totally different for no reason. Time and again we see here stories of S's who go from being loving and caring to selfish and mean in very short order. If that is "normal" or how marriages just break down then I don't want any part of it! I have watched my own parents weather 55 years together with a lot more problems then I ever had in my marriage. To me, that's what normal people do. They don't blame the person that they have loved and loved them simply because they are unhappy. If my W were someone capable of doing that without something else at play, it would have come out long before 25 years together!