Pilot is right. If giving her space works do more of it. If you being around too much doesn't work, then don't be around so much. If conversation is difficult, don't talk to her unless she starts it. And then just be civil and short on words. Reread those rules in Sandi's rules list. And also follow pilot's advice and work on yourself. You cannot change your W. You can only change yourself. When you change yourself and how you interact, then your W will change how she sees you and interacts with you. Let her move out. She's not leaving the planet. She has to come by to see the kids. Those will be your times to interact after learning to apply the DB approach. Don't panic. This will take time. She's obviously in great turmoil running from man to man. What emotional needs are these other guys fulfilling that you did not fulfill? Figure that out and then figure out a way to be able to fulfill those needs. She may not give you many opportunities, but that's the sitch. You must read the book Divorce Remedy!
M: 59 W: 53 M: 9 yrs T: 14 yrs No kids together but D30(hers), S27, S24, D21(all 3 mine) W moved out 11/18/2013 D-Day 12/14/2013 W moved back home 12/1/2014