Don't worry FY, I was just answering 25's posts about a couple of people she knows and the sad story of how their lives were so harmed because of their inability to deal with their issues. My plan now is only to do what is best for myself and my girls. I can no more allow my W's issues to do to me what she is doing to herself then I can allow them to hurt my kids. Sad, yes, very. Anything I can do about it? No. Time is up for wishing or hoping. Now there is only the reality of what is. Money is my number one issue right now. That and making sure my lawyer ducks are in a row! The rest really doesn't matter and what my W does or doesn't do is out of my control. Can't trust crazy. Can't talk to crazy. Can't expect crazy to do anything but things that make no sense to sane!