Yes, frequently conversations gravitate back towards them. When I mentioned the better father thing I neglected to say that my h too said " once I'm happy, they will be happy too." Nope- not exactly the way that works. I see you heard that as well.
In regards to your D, good luck. Unfortunately it's a terrible conversation to have. However, I think it's great she sees a therapist.
I can't help but mention (and I apologize as I'm feeling rather feisty today), but I'm struck the number of spouses that say perhaps we can reconcile 2 years, 5 years, or 10 years from now. I understand about 15-20% of divorced couples remarry. However, it's just so completely irrational (which shows the thought process) to assume that the LBS couldn't and wouldn't move on a live their lives. Interesting.
3 kids BD 12/15/13 (IDKIILY. ) Rope dropped Cirque du Soleil style D final 9-9-14 "Some people are born on 3rd base and go through life thinking they hit a triple." Barry Switzer
