Thanks Riley, MrBond.
Yeah I have been 180ing for a couple weeks now.

Bought a whack of new clothes that fit me now and to look good for WAW. You guys have probrably experienced this but I lost 30lbs due to the stress and major exercise workouts I have been doing to keep up my PMA. I talk soft now (come from an ultra loud family that screams but does not communicate ...hence why the WAW SITCH.)
and then I picked up ultimate frisbee (first team sport in years,...and she has never seen me play team sports) and Qigong which is absolutely the best stress reducing tai chi martial art ever.
The other thing that I have learned in this crisis is that if the timing and intent is right, a woman's heart softens when you apologize. She waffled twice, softened and was kinder to me letting her guard down when I was able to connect with her feeling that way ( and I think the 180s are rattling her a bit too.) Also a good friend of mine shared "when you speak to us women, remember we will carry kind, loving words with us....and they may come to haunt us when we are by ourselves and thinking of you..."
I have a massive amount of work to do but as long as I come to this site a dozen or so times a day I get lots of support from this community of db who are as stubborn as I am about winning back their M.


Me 42 W:35
M: 14yrs T:15yrs
D: 8yrs D:6yrs S:3yrs
BD: "I want a D"09/03/14
Sep: 30/06/14

Don't give up when you still have something to give. Nothing is really over until the moment you stop trying.