Thanks TL! I'm trying so hard to understand as much as possible. I even can see why my W is going through this having the awful childhood she did. Of course, that's cold solace when you are the one that must bear the brunt of the anger and pain when you are the person who most loved and cared for them in the past. Your sitch moved so fast and I have great hope that maybe your H will slow down enough and see that you are still having a life of your own and want that part of his back. If that does ever happen you will be the one who decides if HE is allowed back into the new life you are making for yourself! Stay strong! You are an inspiration to all us LBSers out there spinning away!