Dude…interesting debate that you have going on here….
It’s funny, I see both points of view.
I can see Wonka’s point, which (hopefully I am not mind reading here)…was to point out where she thought YOU could have done better. I probably would have said the same thing that she did to you….for example:
Originally Posted By: JonF
so I assumed[b] that didn't mean long romantic getaways
Rule # 1 [b]don’t assume. Hey I get why you did it and f*ck I’d probably would have done the EXACT same thing. I think Wonka was simply trying to point something out to you. A different perspective. A perspective geared towards a goal of RECONCILIATION.
I also see GM23’s point….
Originally Posted By: Gabbysmom23
How does he feel about being with someone who thinks like that?
Gabby’s goals are IMO, a litte more than just RECONCILATION – they are goals for HOW YOU WANT TO LIVE YOUR LIFE.
Personally, I think Unbidden said it best…….
Originally Posted By: Unbidden
The real issue, I think, is what does he do now.
So JonF…..what is it that YOU really want to do?
Being a close to your kids is GREAT! I strive for this often (even though with a teenage daughter I do want to strangle her from time to time). My life though…is more than my kids. My life is MINE. Mine to live, enjoy, be happy and be peaceful.
That said, this should not be about what YOU did or did not do, what YOUR W did or did not do….rather….
What is it that YOU really want JonF? I like what Gabby wrote….”what kind of partner do you want to be with?” What kind of man do you really want to be? On hand, as dad’s we can love our children to death…but they will at some point the kids grow up and move out. Same can be said for a wife…. One of my fav saying is that I have 2 sons and one daughter. They will always be MY SONS and DAUGHTER…I can though have more than one wife, which FTR, I am getting ready to tie the knot for a second time (go figure).
So JonF…seriously…..what do you really want? If you are not sure, that’s okay. If you want to step off this rollercoaster? That is okay too. If you want to focus on you and the kiddos…that fine too man. This should be sooooo much about YOU now. You too JonF are entitled to be happy. You too JonF have needs and wants. What are they man?
This is all about YOU JonF. What YOU want, where and how YOU want YOUR life to be.
Whatever it is you want JonF….that what you work towards. You work towards that!
Want a different partner – work towards that.
Want a better job – work towards that.
Want to cool off and give this another shot with W – work towards that.
Want to say F it…W is crazy and I am done – work towards that.
DB….IMO, is so much more than trying to save your M. It is about learning better tools to deal with LIFE.
Whatever you decide dude – know this…….
IT WILL BE THE RIGHT DECISION!
FOR YOU….
FOR YOUR KIDS….
And
FOR YOUR WIFE….
Peace, Eric
"The difficulties of Life are intended to make us BETTER,not bitter". "Fear is a prison, where you are the jailer. FREE YOURSELF!" "Life is usually all about how you handle Plan B." - Jack3Beans